{"id":539060,"date":"2023-12-12T13:28:17","date_gmt":"2023-12-12T02:28:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/musicfeeds.com.au\/?p=539060"},"modified":"2023-12-21T12:20:36","modified_gmt":"2023-12-21T01:20:36","slug":"the-native-cats-the-way-on-is-the-way-off-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/musicfeeds.com.au\/features\/the-native-cats-the-way-on-is-the-way-off-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"The Native Cats: &#8220;There Is a Real Overlap in Our Sensibilities and Interests&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Hobart\/nipaluna post-punk act <a href=\"https:\/\/musicfeeds.com.au\/feeds\/The-Native-Cats\/\">The Native Cats<\/a> released their fifth album, <em>The Way On Is the Way Off<\/em>, in November 2023. It&#8217;s the duo&#8217;s first LP through Melbourne\/Naarm indie label Chapter Music, though band members Julian Teakle (bass) and Chloe Alison Escott (vocals, synths) have both worked with Chapter on separate projects in the past.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Native Cats have been active since the late 2000s. Their first album, <em>Always On<\/em>, landed in 2009, followed by <em>Process Praise<\/em> in 2011, <em>Dallas<\/em> in 2013, and the singles \u2018Catspaw\u2019 and \u2018Transportation\u2019 in 2010 and 2012 respectively.<em>The Way On Is the Way Off<\/em> is their first LP since 2018\u2019s <em>John Sharp Toro<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The band&#8217;s five-album discography is an idiosyncratic body of work, distinguished by Escott&#8217;s speak-singing lead vocals and Teakle&#8217;s always-urgent bass playing. Ahead of a national album launch tour, <em>Music Feeds <\/em>speaks to Escott about <em>The Way On Is the Way Off<\/em> and the pair&#8217;s creative bond.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-heading\">The Native Cats &#8211; &#8216;My Risks Is Art&#8217;<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"--aspect-ratio:1.7777777777778;\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/XnW9tNOVYgQ?si=wCd1Dbo4YwJIOFns\" title=\"YouTube video player\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen=\"\"><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Music Feeds: Your solo album, <em>Stars Under Contract<\/em>, was one of my favourites during 2020-2021, a great companion during Melbourne lockdowns.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Chloe Alison Escott: <\/strong>Oh, thank you so much. That was made in late February 2020, so it was right before everything.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MF: You also released The Native Cats seven-inch, <em>Two Creation Myths, <\/em>in 2020.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Chloe: <\/strong>We recorded that in 2019, but we were just starting our launch tour for that in the middle of March. We had an Adelaide show and a Melbourne show booked for one weekend and it was the last weekend of Australian live music basically.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MF: When did you and Julian start thinking about making another The Native Cats album?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Chloe: <\/strong>We knew that we wanted to do another album after those couple of seven inches. We hadn\u2019t written anything new for a little while, but there was this kind of regular local show here in Hobart called PRISM. It was a nice regular thing, people would do experimental projects and works in progress and so on.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We got asked to do it and we just decided, let\u2019s do the show but since it\u2019s a really small, local, low-stakes show, let\u2019s write an entirely new set and perform it at the show. And the songs \u2018Bass Clef\u2019 and \u2018My Risks Is Art\u2019 came out of that. We played both of those and both have been pretty much unchanged since then. That was essentially the beginning of the album.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<iframe style=\"border: 0; width: 100%; height: 120px;\" src=\"https:\/\/bandcamp.com\/EmbeddedPlayer\/album=1456284551\/size=large\/bgcol=ffffff\/linkcol=0687f5\/tracklist=false\/artwork=small\/track=4109215536\/transparent=true\/\" seamless=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/thenativecats.bandcamp.com\/album\/the-way-on-is-the-way-off\">The Way On Is the Way Off by The Native Cats<\/a><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MF: Was that a novel strategy for The Native Cats \u2013 to come up with a whole set of new songs before a show?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Chloe: <\/strong>A whole set, yeah. 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I\u2019m intrigued to learn more about the finer details of yours and Julian\u2019s writing process.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Chloe: <\/strong>We\u2019ve had an interesting working relationship. I guess there are some exceptions, but for the most part Julian writes his bass parts \u2013 he writes a lot of them and he sends me a lot of instrumental demos of bass and drum machine or whatever. And whichever ones of those seem like something I could write to and sing to and affix other synth parts and things to, that\u2019s what we move ahead with.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We tend to work very separately to each other. He writes his things and I write my words. I\u2019ll hear his demo and just walk around listening to it and write on my own. So, in one sense, it\u2019s kind of like we\u2019re like two people with two separate projects, but in the other sense, you can\u2019t always quantify these things. There is just a real overlap between our sensibilities and our interests. It all comes together in a really interesting way that\u2019s kind of hard to boil down to a specific process.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<iframe style=\"border: 0; width: 100%; height: 120px;\" src=\"https:\/\/bandcamp.com\/EmbeddedPlayer\/album=1456284551\/size=large\/bgcol=ffffff\/linkcol=0687f5\/tracklist=false\/artwork=small\/track=4054184075\/transparent=true\/\" seamless=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/thenativecats.bandcamp.com\/album\/the-way-on-is-the-way-off\">The Way On Is the Way Off by The Native Cats<\/a><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MF: Do you really trust each other\u2019s instincts? Like, do you ever have to offer feedback on the demos Julian sends you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Chloe: <\/strong>Yeah. There will often be something that\u2019s just like one repeated line and I\u2019ll ask him to come up with something else to shift into for a little bit. Like with \u2018Dallas\u2019 for instance, you can kind of hear a few subtle variations on it. Like, it stays in the same key the whole way through but I guess \u2018Dallas\u2019 is one of the most structurally complex songs that we\u2019ve done. We really had to work out some variations on that simple bass line because I wanted to shift the mood and shift the sense of drama a little bit more subtly than we usually do.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MF: \u2018Dallas\u2019 is one of a few sort of epics on the new record. You\u2019ve done drawn-out songs in the past, but there is a contrast on the new album between songs like \u2018Dallas\u2019 and \u2018Tanned Rested and Dead\u2019 and the likes of \u2018My Risks Is Art\u2019 and \u2018Small Town Cop Override\u2019.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Chloe:<\/strong> We just kind of follow our instincts on it. Like \u2018Small Town Cop Override\u2019 was a little unusual. That\u2019s one of the few songs that we\u2019ve had where it\u2019s started with the words. I wrote all the words to it before we had a bass line for it. I knew that I just wanted it to be this minute-long thing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s interesting to consider \u2013 I say that we go on instinct and intuition but it\u2019s interesting to consider where that instinct and intuition comes from. Sometimes it\u2019s just that there\u2019s a particular thing that Julian plays that reminds me in some kind of oblique way of a song that I\u2019ve heard and loved somewhere and so it\u2019s like, OK, that settles it, I want this to be really powerful and explosive and done in a minute, or I want this to be a real long motorcycle ride kind of thing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"--aspect-ratio:1.7777777777778;\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/MnDJv2wXR7c?si=q9QD9NnDn-9Q_aPZ\" title=\"YouTube video player\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen=\"\"><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\"><strong><em>Get your hands on The Native Cats&#8217; new album, <\/em>The Way On Is the Way Off<em>, <a href=\"https:\/\/chaptermusic.lnk.to\/nativecatswayon\">here<\/a><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-the-native-cats-2024-australian-tour\">The Native Cats 2024 Australian Tour<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Friday, 12th January \u2013 Polish Club, nipaluna\/Hobart TAS (<em>w\/ Baltimore Charlot &amp; 208L Containers<\/em>)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Friday, 2nd February \u2013 The Metro, Kaurna Country\/Adelaide SA (<em>w\/ Aumbudsmen &amp; False Colours<\/em>) <\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Saturday, 3rd February \u2013 The Curtin, Naarm\/Melbourne VIC (<em>w\/ Parsnip &amp; Ov Pain<\/em>) <\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Saturday, 9th March \u2013 Gaelic Club, Eora\/Sydney NSW (<em>w\/ Bed Wettin&#8217; Bad Boys &amp; more<\/em>)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Saturday, 23rd March \u2013 Jerkfest @ The Barwon Club, Djilang\/Geelong VIC<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Tickets on sale <a href=\"https:\/\/linktr.ee\/thenativecats\">now<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Further Reading<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/musicfeeds.com.au\/features\/amyl-and-the-sniffers-2023-interview\/\">Amyl and the Sniffers: \u201cWe Might Never Play Again Until We\u2019re at the John Farnham Point\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/musicfeeds.com.au\/features\/angie-mcmahon-light-dark-light-again-interview\/\">Angie McMahon: \u201cYou Have to Experience All of the Things That the Chapters Hold for You\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/musicfeeds.com.au\/features\/miss-kaninna-its-a-privilege-to-listen-to-black-peoples-stories\/\">Miss Kaninna: \u201cIt\u2019s a Privilege to Listen to Black People\u2019s Stories\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hobart\/nipaluna post-punk act The Native Cats released their fifth album, The Way On Is the Way Off, in November 2023. 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